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T O P I C R E V I E WChildofVenusWhen deciding on a career which do you look at in a natal chart? The 10th house on the MC?nigemoonmanI have a 20deg MC in Taurus and worked in the food industry for 33 years, that fitted with me very well.A lot of my 10th house is Gemini ( 2/3rds), I have NN at 10.41 deg gem and Jupiter 25 deg gem in my 10th.For just over 10 years I have been moving away from the food industry and getting more interested in writing, researching and studying.I believe it's mainly my NN that is becoming more activated and urging me to pursue my life's path, so I'm following it more. It's like a pull on me to figure out certain things and to get the information out there. So I think the NN may be the strongest indicator of career esp for 2nd half of your life. Mine is also in 10th house, so that must be having an affect also, more so than MC.Possibly MC for your early life?sorenwhen you decide a career you do not consult the natal. deciding a career has to do with looking out at the world, seeing what is wrong, and how you want to fix it. for example, when i look out, i see people doing rituals of jobs, that they do because they are in a repetition type life style. they are filling out the "supposed to be doing" style. what i want in the world, is to not see a vet office there and workers going there because they are supposed to. i want to see some place that cares about animals, because they want to. you only want a job if you want/need money. if you are fine, then there's no reason to worry. especially when you can eat grass and survive. even hunt squirrels (if you are a meat man) when you live on doing what is meaningful, basically what is required of you, then you are on the path. listen now"Life breaks you and shows you what truly matters" really nothing matters. but if anything did matter it would be doing what you want. Radiumsoren. gets it.there's hope after allsoreni wish i was in the age of aries. that's my sign. this age is alright but a bit slow for my taste. have a neighbour, very well tuned to the energies. lies in bed for days and doesnt question if anything is bad about it. RadiumYeah bro we are in the age of ******* Capricorn.That's why everything is such a monotonous drag. It's all about who you know and how you look nowadays. Not a good way for society to operate and I hope stuff gets wild soon. Thank God I'm still young.nigemoonmanWhen you are young and wanting to start a career, it is usual to want to make as much money as you possibly can. Quite often you will choose a job based on earnings over what is more suited to you. But as soren has pointed out: 'when you live on doing what is meaningful, basically what is required of you, then you are on the path.' We all have purpose in this life and if you can find a career that you are passionate about and involves your life path, then you will benefit the most from it. Even if it's low earnings, so you can't afford so many things but having a career that is more fulfilling, this is much better for you overall.OnTheOtherHand has pointed out to: 'stop using your head, go with your heart.'With the North Node this will show what is more suited to your life's path, it usually becomes a stronger force the 2nd part of your life. Quite often you won't want to take this path because your comfortable with your SN and have to move away from this to achieve the most for yourself..Listen to your heart and what you are passionate about and check out your NN for life's purpose: http://astrostyle.com/learn-astrology/north-south-nodes/ soren quote:Originally posted by Radium:I hope stuff gets wild soon.don't worry. we are starting to get into realizing what we "want" instead of what we "should". as soon as this happens, the metamorphasis to butterfly is already done. MarsSaturnDelightI'm quite 10th/MC house heavy. I have Mars, Saturn in the 10th house of Scorpio with Pluto conjunct the MC.All I can say is that I would take any job, but would want to make it to a senior level pretty fast. I'm not good at being subservient. I think that oftentimes, people's choice in a career has many variables in the decision making: practicality, salary, location, need, family and perceived reputation of having that role.To the point, I agree with soren. I would also like to add that the 10th/MC May reveal how you would act whilst in a job role, not what you will work as.TensionEmpireI want to learn to hunt squirls!!!soren quote:Originally posted by TensionEmpire:I want to learn to hunt squirls!!!it's easy. dig a hole and put some open tree nuts in. tie a thin branch to a propted rock and pull TensionEmpireIf i got it right, the rock falls on top of him right? pretty easy, yes, you just have to wait a bit.so there are squirls everywhere, letīs go get them! regarding the 10th house and the MC and career, i believe in what soren sayd.But yeah I have two planets there, and at my age I could`nt lay on my bad and think is fineMy sun is there so I like to see the shining outside, sweat to it, bewonder it, I believe i would like some respect also, and for me you get respect by taking care of yourself in the best way possibleKannon McAfee quote:Originally posted by ChildofVenus:When deciding on a career which do you look at in a natal chart? The 10th house on the MC?Both, because they are parts of the same thing. In some charts, however, there is nothing there and the placement/aspects of the planetary significator of the sign over the MC may not give much information. So you also look at the 6th house.None of that means anything unless you are certain you have an accurate Ascendant, which is the basis for all accuracy in house lines. Even charts that are relatively accurate are off by a few degrees, enough to change the sign over the MC, thus changing the planetary significator, even changing the declination aspects to the MC.------------------The Declinations GuyRising Sign DescriptionsEnergy Healing by requestnigemoonman quote:posted by Kannon McAfee: Both, because they are parts of the same thing. What if the MC is at say 29deg Taurus and most of the 10th house is in Gemini. The MC may point to gardening or food type career, but the overall 10th would say different (more like journalism and writing).MC and 10th house can be different, would need to look at the aspects to the MC and the planets in the 10th.Radium quote:Originally posted by nigemoonman:When you are young and wanting to start a career, it is usual to want to make as much money as you possibly can. Quite often you will choose a job based on earnings over what is more suited to you. But as soren has pointed out: 'when you live on doing what is meaningful, basically what is required of you, then you are on the path.' We all have purpose in this life and if you can find a career that you are passionate about and involves your life path, then you will benefit the most from it. Even if it's low earnings, so you can't afford so many things but having a career that is more fulfilling, this is much better for you overall.OnTheOtherHand has pointed out to: 'stop using your head, go with your heart.'With the North Node this will show what is more suited to your life's path, it usually becomes a stronger force the 2nd part of your life. Quite often you won't want to take this path because your comfortable with your SN and have to move away from this to achieve the most for yourself..Listen to your heart and what you are passionate about and check out your NN for life's purpose: http://astrostyle.com/learn-astrology/north-south-nodes/ My NN is in my 12th House in Scorpio. It's also conjunct my ASCChildofVenusOk well I think Massage Therapy might be a good choice. nigemoonman quote:Originally posted by Radium: My NN is in my 12th House in Scorpio. It's also conjunct my ASCSome info here about Scorpio NN: http://www.truenode.org/north-node-signs/north-node-in-scorpio-south-node-in-taurus/ If your NN is in the 12th conjunct ASC, it's worth checking a 1st house NN reading.You can check both: http://beyondthestarsastrology.com/2016/03/18/analysis-of-the-1 2th-house6th-house-nodal-axis-through-the-signs/ http://beyondthestarsastrology.com/2013/11/05/analysis-of-the-1s t-house7th-house-nodal-axis-through-the-signs/ anonymidarkness quote:Originally posted by soren:when you decide a career you do not consult the natal. deciding a career has to do with looking out at the world, seeing what is wrong, and how you want to fix it. for example, when i look out, i see people doing rituals of jobs, that they do because they are in a repetition type life style. they are filling out the "supposed to be doing" style. what i want in the world, is to not see a vet office there and workers going there because they are supposed to. i want to see some place that cares about animals, because they want to. you only want a job if you want/need money. if you are fine, then there's no reason to worry. especially when you can eat grass and survive. even hunt squirrels (if you are a meat man) when you live on doing what is meaningful, basically what is required of you, then you are on the path. listen now"Life breaks you and shows you what truly matters" really nothing matters. but if anything did matter it would be doing what you want. Kannon McAfee quote:Originally posted by nigemoonman:What if the MC is at say 29deg Taurus and most of the 10th house is in Gemini. The MC may point to gardening or food type career, but the overall 10th would say different (more like journalism and writing).MC and 10th house can be different, would need to look at the aspects to the MC and the planets in the 10th.Understood, but you missed the point with a sign-based notion of 'different'. The question was posed with an either/or scenario, but my answer reflected no such duality. I always look at all the information presented there altogether -- once I have verified the accuracy of cusps/houses. So I don't see the MC saying something different than the contents of the 10th house, regardless of differing signs there, because I integrate that information into a synthesized interpretation rather than seeing them as separate parts that appear contradictory.By itself the sign over the MC cannot be counted on to indicate a specific career, but indicates a general mode. Taurus [Venusian fixed earth] over the 10th does not indicate a specific career. Most people who have Taurus over the MC do not have gardening or food-related careers. Art/entertainment is just as likely, as is craftsmanship, as in carpentry/building/architecture. But if Mercury is parallel the MC, writing, journalism, or teaching could be just as likely. Careers change as the society develops and offers people more options.The whole chart has to be taken into account, including the 6th house. Many folks won't be happy in one line of work their whole lives and will want to explore various aspects of their talents and develop them further.ChildofVenus, if you are speaking of massage therapy for yourself, that sounds great. I hope you go forward with full confidence in your ability to help others. MC=Taurus > Venus in last degree of Pisces makes for a great caring sensitivity with others. Just be sure to shake off and not absorb any negative stuff from clients. Moon in Aquarius can assist with some personal detachment from them. Important when dealing with the public or lots of people day-to-day. If your Moon is in the 6th house, this further indicates caring sensitivity to the body and its needs. 6th house: care of the body and natural health methods.You also have Mercury-Jupiter conjunct the North Node, which allows you to carry forward to great success by just speaking positively about what you want to do, "I am ...___ ..." and watching the positive word spread.Good luck -- it is yours!------------------The Declinations GuyRising Sign DescriptionsEnergy Healing by requestSelenite quote:Originally posted by soren:really nothing matters. but if anything did matter it would be doing what you want. ^_^& die by what you love doingnigemoonman quote:Originally posted by Kannon McAfee: Understood, but you missed the point with a sign-based notion of 'different'. The question was posed with an either/or scenario, but my answer reflected no such duality. I always look at all the information presented there altogether -- once I have verified the accuracy of cusps/houses. So I don't see the MC saying something different than the contents of the 10th house, regardless of differing signs there, because I integrate that information into a synthesized interpretation rather than seeing them as separate parts that appear contradictory.Hi Kannon, I agree that the MC, the 10th house, all the planets and aspects to these. Plus the 6th house and many other things in the chart should be synthesized together to look for best career possibilities. And that there are many suitable careers for a Taurus MC, including sculpture, landscaping, gardening, architecture, real estate, antiques, farming, catering, visual arts, decorating, home renovation, performance arts, music, crafts, finance, the list goes on.... I didn't mean to criticize your answer, was just pointing out that some people who have a change of sign in the 10th house, their career options can change during their lifetime. My MC in Taurus 20 deg, NN and Jupiter in Gemini, I had a big shift occur and I no longer wanted to work in the food industry any longer. I became far more interested in astrology and solar system research.Here is some information: 'If the House changes Zodiac sign somewhere in its span, that means your career development will shift from one characteristic to another. It usually includes a significant change of your social situation as a whole. If the House is mainly in one single Zodiac sign, there may still be changes but they seem to go ahead as predicted.'from: http://www.completehoroscope.org/astrology/house10.htm SoltzeI have Uranus in Capricorn in the 10th. I work in a bank dealing with crazy nutjobs...uranussss
A lot of my 10th house is Gemini ( 2/3rds), I have NN at 10.41 deg gem and Jupiter 25 deg gem in my 10th.
For just over 10 years I have been moving away from the food industry and getting more interested in writing, researching and studying.
I believe it's mainly my NN that is becoming more activated and urging me to pursue my life's path, so I'm following it more. It's like a pull on me to figure out certain things and to get the information out there.
So I think the NN may be the strongest indicator of career esp for 2nd half of your life. Mine is also in 10th house, so that must be having an affect also, more so than MC.
Possibly MC for your early life?
deciding a career has to do with looking out at the world, seeing what is wrong, and how you want to fix it.
for example, when i look out, i see people doing rituals of jobs, that they do because they are in a repetition type life style. they are filling out the "supposed to be doing" style.
what i want in the world, is to not see a vet office there and workers going there because they are supposed to.
i want to see some place that cares about animals, because they want to.
you only want a job if you want/need money. if you are fine, then there's no reason to worry. especially when you can eat grass and survive. even hunt squirrels (if you are a meat man)
when you live on doing what is meaningful, basically what is required of you, then you are on the path. listen now"Life breaks you and shows you what truly matters"
really nothing matters. but if anything did matter it would be doing what you want.
there's hope after all
this age is alright but a bit slow for my taste.
have a neighbour, very well tuned to the energies. lies in bed for days and doesnt question if anything is bad about it.
That's why everything is such a monotonous drag. It's all about who you know and how you look nowadays. Not a good way for society to operate and I hope stuff gets wild soon. Thank God I'm still young.
But as soren has pointed out: 'when you live on doing what is meaningful, basically what is required of you, then you are on the path.'
We all have purpose in this life and if you can find a career that you are passionate about and involves your life path, then you will benefit the most from it. Even if it's low earnings, so you can't afford so many things but having a career that is more fulfilling, this is much better for you overall.
OnTheOtherHand has pointed out to: 'stop using your head, go with your heart.'
With the North Node this will show what is more suited to your life's path, it usually becomes a stronger force the 2nd part of your life. Quite often you won't want to take this path because your comfortable with your SN and have to move away from this to achieve the most for yourself..
Listen to your heart and what you are passionate about and check out your NN for life's purpose: http://astrostyle.com/learn-astrology/north-south-nodes/
quote:Originally posted by Radium:I hope stuff gets wild soon.
don't worry. we are starting to get into realizing what we "want" instead of what we "should".
as soon as this happens, the metamorphasis to butterfly is already done.
All I can say is that I would take any job, but would want to make it to a senior level pretty fast. I'm not good at being subservient.
I think that oftentimes, people's choice in a career has many variables in the decision making: practicality, salary, location, need, family and perceived reputation of having that role.
To the point, I agree with soren. I would also like to add that the 10th/MC May reveal how you would act whilst in a job role, not what you will work as.
quote:Originally posted by TensionEmpire:I want to learn to hunt squirls!!!
it's easy. dig a hole and put some open tree nuts in. tie a thin branch to a propted rock and pull
so there are squirls everywhere, letīs go get them!
regarding the 10th house and the MC and career, i believe in what soren sayd.But yeah I have two planets there, and at my age I could`nt lay on my bad and think is fineMy sun is there so I like to see the shining outside, sweat to it, bewonder it, I believe i would like some respect also, and for me you get respect by taking care of yourself in the best way possible
quote:Originally posted by ChildofVenus:When deciding on a career which do you look at in a natal chart? The 10th house on the MC?
Both, because they are parts of the same thing. In some charts, however, there is nothing there and the placement/aspects of the planetary significator of the sign over the MC may not give much information. So you also look at the 6th house.
None of that means anything unless you are certain you have an accurate Ascendant, which is the basis for all accuracy in house lines. Even charts that are relatively accurate are off by a few degrees, enough to change the sign over the MC, thus changing the planetary significator, even changing the declination aspects to the MC.
------------------The Declinations GuyRising Sign DescriptionsEnergy Healing by request
quote:posted by Kannon McAfee: Both, because they are parts of the same thing.
What if the MC is at say 29deg Taurus and most of the 10th house is in Gemini. The MC may point to gardening or food type career, but the overall 10th would say different (more like journalism and writing).
MC and 10th house can be different, would need to look at the aspects to the MC and the planets in the 10th.
quote:Originally posted by nigemoonman:When you are young and wanting to start a career, it is usual to want to make as much money as you possibly can. Quite often you will choose a job based on earnings over what is more suited to you. But as soren has pointed out: 'when you live on doing what is meaningful, basically what is required of you, then you are on the path.' We all have purpose in this life and if you can find a career that you are passionate about and involves your life path, then you will benefit the most from it. Even if it's low earnings, so you can't afford so many things but having a career that is more fulfilling, this is much better for you overall.OnTheOtherHand has pointed out to: 'stop using your head, go with your heart.'With the North Node this will show what is more suited to your life's path, it usually becomes a stronger force the 2nd part of your life. Quite often you won't want to take this path because your comfortable with your SN and have to move away from this to achieve the most for yourself..Listen to your heart and what you are passionate about and check out your NN for life's purpose: http://astrostyle.com/learn-astrology/north-south-nodes/
My NN is in my 12th House in Scorpio. It's also conjunct my ASC
quote:Originally posted by Radium: My NN is in my 12th House in Scorpio. It's also conjunct my ASC
Some info here about Scorpio NN: http://www.truenode.org/north-node-signs/north-node-in-scorpio-south-node-in-taurus/
If your NN is in the 12th conjunct ASC, it's worth checking a 1st house NN reading.
You can check both: http://beyondthestarsastrology.com/2016/03/18/analysis-of-the-1 2th-house6th-house-nodal-axis-through-the-signs/
http://beyondthestarsastrology.com/2013/11/05/analysis-of-the-1s t-house7th-house-nodal-axis-through-the-signs/
quote:Originally posted by soren:when you decide a career you do not consult the natal. deciding a career has to do with looking out at the world, seeing what is wrong, and how you want to fix it. for example, when i look out, i see people doing rituals of jobs, that they do because they are in a repetition type life style. they are filling out the "supposed to be doing" style. what i want in the world, is to not see a vet office there and workers going there because they are supposed to. i want to see some place that cares about animals, because they want to. you only want a job if you want/need money. if you are fine, then there's no reason to worry. especially when you can eat grass and survive. even hunt squirrels (if you are a meat man) when you live on doing what is meaningful, basically what is required of you, then you are on the path. listen now"Life breaks you and shows you what truly matters" really nothing matters. but if anything did matter it would be doing what you want.
quote:Originally posted by nigemoonman:What if the MC is at say 29deg Taurus and most of the 10th house is in Gemini. The MC may point to gardening or food type career, but the overall 10th would say different (more like journalism and writing).MC and 10th house can be different, would need to look at the aspects to the MC and the planets in the 10th.
Understood, but you missed the point with a sign-based notion of 'different'. The question was posed with an either/or scenario, but my answer reflected no such duality. I always look at all the information presented there altogether -- once I have verified the accuracy of cusps/houses. So I don't see the MC saying something different than the contents of the 10th house, regardless of differing signs there, because I integrate that information into a synthesized interpretation rather than seeing them as separate parts that appear contradictory.
By itself the sign over the MC cannot be counted on to indicate a specific career, but indicates a general mode. Taurus [Venusian fixed earth] over the 10th does not indicate a specific career. Most people who have Taurus over the MC do not have gardening or food-related careers. Art/entertainment is just as likely, as is craftsmanship, as in carpentry/building/architecture. But if Mercury is parallel the MC, writing, journalism, or teaching could be just as likely. Careers change as the society develops and offers people more options.
The whole chart has to be taken into account, including the 6th house. Many folks won't be happy in one line of work their whole lives and will want to explore various aspects of their talents and develop them further.
ChildofVenus, if you are speaking of massage therapy for yourself, that sounds great. I hope you go forward with full confidence in your ability to help others. MC=Taurus > Venus in last degree of Pisces makes for a great caring sensitivity with others. Just be sure to shake off and not absorb any negative stuff from clients.
Moon in Aquarius can assist with some personal detachment from them. Important when dealing with the public or lots of people day-to-day. If your Moon is in the 6th house, this further indicates caring sensitivity to the body and its needs. 6th house: care of the body and natural health methods.
You also have Mercury-Jupiter conjunct the North Node, which allows you to carry forward to great success by just speaking positively about what you want to do, "I am ...___ ..." and watching the positive word spread.
Good luck -- it is yours!
quote:Originally posted by soren:really nothing matters. but if anything did matter it would be doing what you want.
^_^& die by what you love doing
quote:Originally posted by Kannon McAfee: Understood, but you missed the point with a sign-based notion of 'different'. The question was posed with an either/or scenario, but my answer reflected no such duality. I always look at all the information presented there altogether -- once I have verified the accuracy of cusps/houses. So I don't see the MC saying something different than the contents of the 10th house, regardless of differing signs there, because I integrate that information into a synthesized interpretation rather than seeing them as separate parts that appear contradictory.
Hi Kannon, I agree that the MC, the 10th house, all the planets and aspects to these. Plus the 6th house and many other things in the chart should be synthesized together to look for best career possibilities. And that there are many suitable careers for a Taurus MC, including sculpture, landscaping, gardening, architecture, real estate, antiques, farming, catering, visual arts, decorating, home renovation, performance arts, music, crafts, finance, the list goes on....
I didn't mean to criticize your answer, was just pointing out that some people who have a change of sign in the 10th house, their career options can change during their lifetime.
My MC in Taurus 20 deg, NN and Jupiter in Gemini, I had a big shift occur and I no longer wanted to work in the food industry any longer. I became far more interested in astrology and solar system research.
Here is some information: 'If the House changes Zodiac sign somewhere in its span, that means your career development will shift from one characteristic to another. It usually includes a significant change of your social situation as a whole. If the House is mainly in one single Zodiac sign, there may still be changes but they seem to go ahead as predicted.'from: http://www.completehoroscope.org/astrology/house10.htm
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